I hate to say it, but it's real. http://www.dvanhorn.org/NIMH/Index.php For years, I have supported the position that there was no such thing in consumer cells. Well.. I was wrong. I recently built a jig for testing battery charger systems under development, and having seen Sanyo's data sheet explaining about the memory effect, and for the first time, a specific set of conditions to bring it about, I couldn't resist. I altered my battery test rig to produce the short discharge cycles, and there it is. The details are about halfway down the page, with plots of the data. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics