I stumbled upon this: http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/4/index.htm which contains a link to this: http://www.atomchip.com/ Now here is when it gets interesting, they claim to have multigigabyte (for example 4GB SD cards) memory cards in 2004. Using 'quantum optical effect' : http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html referring to this patent US:5841689 : http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=5841689.WKU.&OS=PN/5841689&RS=PN/5841689 "Gendlin Effect" never heard of it. This all looks very amateurish and seems to be an hoax, but I can really find any concrete evidence of it. So what are your thoughts ? /Tony ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.