Neoprene is more popular though. but of course there are those days when its just toooooo bloody hot to let your drink stand around long enough to even think about getting warm, I was getting to a site this morning at 0615 I dont know what temp it was but I'm pretty fit and I was saturated with sweat within 15-20mins without doing anything strenuous. There are more beverage insulator's than there are 'mugs*' thankfully :-)))) * referring to colloquial Australian term http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/language/a/strinem.htm -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan B. Pearce Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 12:09 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT:] Just FYI... >there are also lots of ceramic hot beverage containers.....;-) > >JJ >(born n bred ozzie) But down there I would have thought there would be even more polystyrene cold beverage holders :)))))) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.