John, certainly calling out your position is a good thing I agree and I do it all the time. The thing I don't like is assuming that since nobody calls you back on the radio responding to "traffic in the area please advise" that there's no traffic and you can just go about your merry way with disregard for the people who may not be on the frequency. Its just more radio chatter that serves no purpose. Regards, Bob ohn Ferrell wrote .. > We must live in different worlds. It has been about 15 years since I was > active as an instructor but when I had a student in the pattern the idea > was > for him to report downwind, base & final. I also stressed the need for > observation and situational awareness. When they were 5 miles out and > approaching, they were to advise all listeners of their position and their > intentions. Granted, some areas have too much chatter to allow this, but > a > mid-air can ruin your whole day. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics