-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 source= http://www.piclist.com/piclist/2004/01/13/020626b.txt? Wouter van Ooijen says: >I haven't. I have to re-read the data sheet, but I suspect that I can't >do anything without +13V present. In part, I have the posture that anyone >using code protection should use a production programmer. >Not true. You can code-protect with an LVP progger like yours, and the >LVP/HVP distinctions has nothing to do with prototype versus production >programming. It would have been more clear if I wrote: ... I suspect that I can't recover without +13V present ... >To me that sounds like you should use a bootloader instead. I have thought about this a lot. I think the strongest argument is that I want them to be able to go buy a new PIC in the middle of the night if they fry one, and they want to present the "successful" view to me in the daytime. >RJ PCB plugs are a rare breed. ICD2 provides an RJ socket and a two-plug >cable, which is normal for RJ. I don't know if the ICD2 circuit is >available, but the circuit of various Mircochip target boards that use the >RJ plug are available. If you want I can send you the pin assignment. A URL to a target board or pinout would save me some searching. - --- Aubrey McIntosh http://www.piclist.com/member/AM-vima-Y84 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBQAQZzwKlSw8yssF7EQI8BgCeOgDizgPz7Sea0ogE4N88Sy16efQAn2rs Uyjteq7cJBaYB9PLmm2vNGP6 =Y19s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics