We use those little spring loaded test terminals into a pth hole the ones with a spear point and a scrap pcb underneath them they go in on a 0.1 pitch. Ew also disconnect the VCC and the data lines with little jumpers until the program is finished (the programmer cant handle the currents of the whole circuit often so it only powers the device Steve... -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse Lackey Sent: 11 January 2004 04:31 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE:] ICSP in production runs - connectors? Hi all, A question. I'm about to do a design for production (meaning runs of 100, for now anyway) and wonder how to provide for ICSP of the PIC. It will probably be a 12F part, if it matters. I don't want to have a row of header pins, nor any sort of cutout for connecting a card-edge type connector (rectangular pcb with nothing fancy is cheapest). I'm thinking something along the lines of some pads at the pcb edge with two holes such that some kind of small 5-pin connector can be placed on the pcb (with the holes matching up to bosses on the connector), the operator hits program in MPLAB while holding the connector down, then on to the next board. The PIC will hopefully be an 8-pin SOIC device; 14 pin if the design requires it. Would some sort of spring-loaded clamp onto the PIC be preferred? How do people do this? All suggestions welcome! Thanks everyone Jesse p.s. and thank you PIClister whose funny .sig I swiped. :) -- "There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary and those who don't." -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu