Before you go reinventing the wheel, you might look at what's already out there. microEngineering Labs produces PIC Basic which is a BASIC compiler originally designed with a very high level of source code compatibility with the BASIC Stamp. But since it's a compiler it produces PIC instructions instead of tokens, so it runs orders of magnitude faster than any interpreter can. Last I looked PIC Basic was about $100. Add an IDE and a bootloader to that and Stamps are a thing of the past. (both of which are available free) I prefer PIC Basic Pro, it cost more like $250, but it allows speeds other than 4Mhz and programs bigger than 2k (among other things) And I use microCodeStudio for my IDE and bootloader (about $50). Pic basic and pic basic pro are available as limited demos on the www.melabs.com web site. It'd take a lot of software development to come up with a comparable solution. -Denny > Hi > Thanks for replying > > Yup 18 series have more stuff and more memory too. > Hmm Hope to do something that at least have function of a stamp but of cos > must go for more > some thing low cost and every one can use it. > > I have try some coding on 16 series works quite well i agreee if it is done > no 18 it will be better. > I heard that the 18 series instruction set is a bit different. > > on top of that to process a token you need a write a complier , anyway i am > not software trained all the while i have being using the marco in the MPlab > to generate the token values but it work fine is just a trouble of > switching between the bootloader and the IDE > > so embarrassing hahhaa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan-Erik Soderholm XA (TN/PAC)" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:38 AM > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Any one interested in developing a Open Source stamp c > lone using 16F87X > > > > Ji. > > > > Target a 18-series PIC instead and you get a lot > > of added features. The cost of the PIC will > > probably be just a (smaller ?) part of the > > whole project anyway. I think that 18-series > > architecture also makes it easier to implement > > the runtime environment processing the byte tokens. > > > > With a "Stamp clone", do you mean something that runs the > > same source code or just built more or less the same way ? > > > > Jan-Erik. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of PSL > > > Sent: den 10 januari 2004 18:58 > > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > > Subject: [PIC]: Any one interested in developing a Open Source stamp > > > clone using 16F87X > > > > > > > > > Hi any one want to develop a basic stamp clone > > > > > > using byte oriented token can create something that work like > > > a basic stamp > > > or better. > > > > > > Any one interested we can talk about it and do it together > > > using what we > > > find on the piclist resource > > > > > > :) > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body