I made two extension cables using crappy 6 conductor (3 twisted pairs) telephone cable. 25 foot cable plus camera's 4 foot cable. Works. 40 foot cable plus camera's 4 foot cable. Does not work. I also tested with an FTDI RS232 adapter, same results. Thanks for everyone's input. I will get an active extension cable sometime and experiment further, I suspect I'll be able to get 50 feet with one active extension but I'll let you know. Cheers, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.