Hi All, I have been trying to get the C18 Demo, ICD2, and PicDem 2+ going. I got blinking Leds on Bport from an example (modified) working in C, but have yet to get text to the LCD! I know the hardware and edit cycle are working! I have been on the phone 3 times to Mchip support and on the Forum. They have sent me to the forum for answers! Still no "Hello World!" I have an email in presently to tech support for their amusement. It seems like you really have to be a 'C' guy to even get basics done? Seeing discussions on the Pic List about the Forum, it dawned on me! Has anyone got the batch files sorted out and recompiled the libraries in C18 to make the LCD functions work on the PicDem2+??? I have modified the the lcd header file and the make batch file to make a new Clib, but still no LCD text. It seems to me that their batch file skips the subdirectory to re-compile the LCD functions? That could be all or one problem? Thanks for ANY help out there. Mike Hagen, Hagen Engineering, Mike@HagenEng.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics