>and of course, the speaker. A large diameter piezo make sense, but it >will never sound that great being a cheap speaker. That may be all we >need though. Tie it to 18V across a resistor, power it with a 2N2222A >common emitter, and run the base to the PIC through a 1K resistor. That >is the simplest sound output you can find, and will work fine for simple >sounds. We are not playing MP3's here you know. Well if going this route, and using a wall wart at 9-18V, then why not use an LM386 power amp IC, or similar, and a transistor radio speaker. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics