> First I thought I would use 12vdc, and use a hefty wall wart. But here > you end up needing up to 3 or 4 amps. And this I don't quite see how > you could do on a circuit board. Yes/no ?? Yes > Oh yeah, I want it to be very small and compact to fit in a little box > on top of the valve. A conventional transformer supply for 4A would be quite large. Even a switchmode could be fairly large and possibly troublesome to make and test if you've little experience > The 110 vac valves seem to use very little amps. So maybe this > is more appropriate It does mean that you'd need no components at all to get a supply for them, as it's already there at the wall > But how do you mix ac from the wall and 5vdc for the pic? > I guess I need a power supply And an opto-coupler + triac as the interface > I would like to have something that I can plug into the wall that will > give me 110 vac for the valve and 5vdc for my pic. http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/txless.html Be careful !!!!!!! And be aware of any electrical regulations that may apply -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics