I'm a little bit stuck here trying to move from my hobby board to the real world. I want to put a little pic circuit board on an electrically actuated ball valve. And there are several types or ways of powering these valves, from high amp 12 vdc, to 24 ac to 110 and 220 vac. First I thought I would use 12vdc, and use a hefty wall wart. But here you end up needing upto 3 or 4 amps. And this I don't quite see how you could do on a circuit board. Yes/no ?? The 110 vac valves seem to use very little amps. So maybe this is more appropriate. But how do you mix ac from the wall and 5vdc for the pic? I guess I need a power supply. This is where I have practically no knowledge. I would like to have something that I can plug into the wall that will give me 110 vac for the valve and 5vdc for my pic. Say I want to build this from scratch. I will need a transformer and then rectify the stepped down ac into dc. (Or can you just buy something like this in one package? What value would I need for my pic circuit, pretty much the pic and a relay?) Is there a streamlined modular way to do this? Or do you still need to build a wheat stone bridge and fiddle around with all this stuff. Oh yeah, I want it to be very small and compact to fit in a little box on top of the valve. Is it true that because the pic circuit requires very little amps that I can use a smaller transformer? Do you need more windings for more amps? Any links, tips, references, appreciated. Thanks -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics