Nate, Look into marine batteries. They are intended for deep cycling. I don't have the electrical load in my Jeep that you do in yours ( LOVE MY JEEPS!! ), but I've had good luck with marine batteries in all my off-road vehicles. They don't cost what they're asking for Optimas, either. D. Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. *************************************************************** >From: Nate Duehr >Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: [EE]: Interesting automotive battery falure >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:52:56 -0700 > >On Saturday 27 December 2003 10:10 pm, James Cameron wrote: > > > Having moved into the outback about four years ago, we go through > > lots of batteries. I had a new one today, it had been installed in > > May. The failure rate appears to relate to high temperatures and > > vibration on dirt roads. > >I would agree with this experience. I do a lot of 4x4 backcountry >driving in my Jeep Cherokee and my battery failure rate is twice what >my wife's is in her Honda Civic. (She got 6 years out of the original >manufacturer's battery, I got 3. We're both on our second >non-manufacturer OEM batteries now.) My dad also does a lot of >backcountry driving and his battery failure rate in his GMC Jimmy has >been about 3 years to a battery also. > >The "one cell shorted, voltage low" also seems to be the most common >failure for both of us. > >I purchased a "off-road/4x4" version of the DieHard brand from Sears >recently. I'll let you know in 3 (or more) years how it stands up. >;-) > >Their claim is that it's better suited for off-road activity, looking at >the case, it appears to be a much more rugged construction, but not >sure internally how much difference there is. LOL... hopefully some. >That or I'm a typical idiot consumer who'll buy anything. :-) > >I would have liked to have tried the Optima brand cylindrical batteries, >but the battery picked a bad financial time of the year to die, so I >"splurged" an extra $30 to get the "off-road" DieHard and we'll see how >she goes... > >As a side note, I'm VERY hard on batteries and electrical system >components. I have a bunch of Amateur radio transmitters installed or >not installed at various times of the year, depending on communications >needs. All pull high current from the battery system, and I do >regularly use them with the engine off, so my battery tends to get >"deep cycled" more than it would in a typical use vehicle. As a >comparison, my wife's car has a single transmitter in it and it's >rarely used except when the vehicle is in motion and the Alternator can >take up the load it creates. > >-- >Nate Duehr, nate@natetech.com > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body