> I'm starting to think I'll stick with relays instead. You know > where you are with a switch Yes. Slow. If you're planning never to do anything more sophisticated than on/off then a relay is OK. Notwithstanding the size, cost and ultimate contact degradation of large relays that is But opto-driving triacs does work http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/txless.html (last picture). You can also use small trigger transformers > What sort of application would an optically driven triac be better > than a relay in? I can think of dimmer circuits and motor-speed > controllers, but that's all Those would be two major uses. But there's more to it than that. Switching mains with relays can be very noisy, electrically speaking. Because of the uncertainty wrt the activation and closure time of the contacts you have no control over at which point in the cycle the actual switching will be done. This can cause a lot of annoying EMF. If though you can precisely control the switching point (for example zero-crossing) this can virtually eliminate EMF and problems caused by current in-rush -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body