Hi folks, I have been doing ICSP using EPIC as well as a home made JDM compatible serial port programmer on 16F628s and some 16F87Xs for some time. Recently, I tried the same on a 12F675, and I find that the results are very unreliable, and unpredictable. The same 12F675, of course, programs fine in the socket, in both programmers. Are there any specific issues when using ICSP with 8 pin devices? Such as perhaps the ICSP cable having to be shorter? The cable I have been using is about 10". Regards, Anand Dhuru --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01-Sep-03 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body