Here are the defines... #define BS 0x08 // Backspace #define HT 0x09 // Horizontal tab #define LF 0x0A // Linefeed #define VT 0x0B // Vertical tab #define FF 0x0C // formfeed #define CR 0x0D // carrage return I've also experimented with adding "shift-out" = 0x0e, "shift-in"=0x0f, "end of text"=0x03, and "NUL" = 0x00, before sending the control characters. This doesn't work....neither does the "bell"=0x07... That's curious.... Initial FF is to clear the screen and set the cursor in top left. I'm constantly updating the current status through FF, then redraw of entire screen. Also, thanks for the tip on the other term programs, but I'm trying to stick with something that's included in every copy of Windows...the goal is to make a serial interface so that the customers (most likely NOT computer savy) could modify certain attributes of the product through serial port without having to buy/download anything. Dan D -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body