We make a lot of boards for small runs of small PIC products. We get these boards from ExpressPCB. On any order of "miniboards" (2-1/2" x 3.8") we may have 10 to 20 separate circuits. This makes individual boards very cheap in small quantities. A PIC board that uses an 8-pin chip would cost a fortune to order singly at PCB FAB Express, but we can get 30 or 40 of them at ExpressPCB for $60. They're perfectly happy to take multiple layouts per board, and I've never been flagged for too many holes either. -- Bryan Mumford Santa Barbara, California http://www.bmumford.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.