Congrats Robert! As further encouragement to those who haven't tried, it really isn't that hard...just be prepared to ruin a few boards getting your technique down. I still think the most valuable addition to my technique was using a laminator to transfer the toner. In any case, good luck with your testing. I hope that when you switched to dead bug you remembered to flip the components so they're still pinned correctly. Have fun! Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Robert Ussery wrote: > I > broke my only PCB drill while loading it into the drill press, so I > converted the board to SMT (i.e., "deadbugging" all non-surface mount > components) at the last minute. I have yet to try the board out, but it > looks pretty good. Cool, huh? Now on to re-design my PC's motherboard! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics