I've worked on only two large scale PIC projects (read: worth a grade ;-) till now - one of them was extremely time-dependent and had to be completely hand coded; the other was due today :) and I didn't have too much time to spend on it. I took a look at Olin's macros/includes today (and Jan-Erik's crystal clear PDF port of the documentation), and think they would be great for RAD (rapid applic devel) when every nanosecond of processing time doesn't matter. Although I haven't played with them yet, I wonder what the setup is if I want to continue using my ICD2 to debug code from within MPLAB. Do I assemble/link/etc. from the command line (maybe write a batch file), then upload to the PIC, and go along with the ICD2? Or is there some way to make MPLAB call the EmbedInc tools (like renaming them to Microchip names or something?). Basically, what's the most painless way to use the EmbedInc stuff without deviating too much from my standard MPLAB/ICD2 routine? Thanks, Ishaan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads