To me the benefit of ExpressPCB is not so much the low cost, fast turn around, or that the layout software is free. It's that the layout software is so easy to use. I downloaded Eagle once and took a look at it. I found it overly complicated. You can learn to use ExpressPCB in half an hour. The link between the schematic program and the PCB program now make it very easy to avoid mistakes. At 12:55 PM -0800 12-16-03, Chuck Hellebuyck wrote: >Matt, >There have been some great notes on this and I also recommend you >learn to lay it out yourself. Another option besides EAGLE is >EXPRESSPCB.com. >The software is free to download and you can get three 2.5"x3.8" >non-solder mask, non-silkscreen boards for $59 including shipping. >I use it often for quick prototypes. >They now offer 4 layers also but I'm not sure if this is included in >the $59 price or not. -- Bryan Mumford Mumford Micro Systems bryan@bmumford.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body