Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >>At last I have found that BOTH, 628 AND 628A CAN BE PROGRAM WITH FPP. > So it happens that it works (parially?), No, it works fully. I can erase and reprogram both chips. > not by design but by accident. I would be prefer to salute to the wisdom of a astute designer for implementing the right commands. > Then what are you complaining about? I am not sure to understand what you mean here. But I have to tell you, when I first post my question, I was hoping that you Wouter and others that made programming software for these chips would see this as a challenge and offer leads. If not, at the least be interested in the solution. Well I was wrong. I understand that nobody HAS to offer help. But I wonder why someone your caliber would waste his time giving the "RTFM", "Search the last five year archives" or "Buy a real controller" type of answer when there is an intelligent solution at hand? When this sooo useful and dirt cheap setup of mine comes to its limit I may look into other programmers like yours. But once again its life has been extended. Gaston Gagnon -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body