>Peter, >Are these boxes empty, with just plugs? Where can you buy them? Yes, empty, with plugs and receptacles. I can buy them in a shop here (pricey) but they are used by common projects (f.ex. Elektor, Velleman) and every plastic box maker should have some. I think even Mouser had some a few years ago in their catalog, I am looking in the online version now (but can't seem to find any). Try to look for 'dimmer enclosure' or 'wall wart enclosure' or 'ballast enclosure' or such. I am sure someone on this list has bought some in the past. For some reason they are hard to find on the web. Note that you need to find the ones that match your country's receptacles and plugs. The ballast boxes are plugless boxes designed to clamp (and secure against pullout) on a mains cable that runs through them. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads