From: "D. Jay Newman" > > My very first was an 1802. Only assembly, which was a good kick- > > Yes, I wanted one of those ever since the articles in Popular Electronics > came out. But I was in high-school at the time and couldn't afford it. :( You must be about my age then. After much begging, my parents got me a $99 kit from Netronics (anyone remember them?) for Christmas in 1978 (IIRC). That was quite an odd CPU having no "reasonably usable" stack ability or even call/return instructions. No assembler, all machine code keyed in using the spiffy hex keypad (as opposed to the original designs 8 toggle switches). All in all, roughly comparable in power to a low end PIC though the 1802 does have some "awareness" of the 16 bit world. There's a big groupie following for them at www.cosmacelf.com Some guy even coded one up in an FPGA. michael brown -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads