Matt, I think one of the feature I like to have is wizard for example. After click on wizard 1. choose pic 2. what language Hi-tech c, ccs c, asm 3. what peripherals to activate 4. what interrupts to activate 5. so on until reach the end then the code is ready for compiler Andre -----Original Message----- Hi All, I'm new to PIC programming but I'm an experienced Windows programmer. I am struggling with the dearth of decent code editors /that are language-aware and target aware/ for the various PIC programming languages (C variants, PICBasic, assembly, etc...) and chips. As I said, I'm used to Windows programming in editors that are language aware and offer a rich set of features like Intellisense, MemberLists, context-sensitive help, target device feature awareness, and so on. I know there are awesome code editors out there - but for the most part they aren't geared toward PIC development. Catering to everyone necessarily entails reducing oneself to the lowest common denominator. Why should PIC programmers be limited by the needs of people editing HTML or C or whatever? Several weeks ago I took it upon myself to write a code editor that is tightly integrated with both my PIC C compiler and my programmer (kitsrus #150). It is aware of the peripherals available on my target chips. I am coding this in a manner that will allow easy extensibility - plugging in a new language, compiler, programmer or device (i.e., target chip) will be as simple as writing an XML file that defines information associated with the plugged-in language, compiler, programmer or device. I realize this is an ambitious endeavor but I've made great progress in the last few weeks. I'm writing this primarily for myself but will certainly share it with members of the list as it becomes more functional. In my opinion it is INSANE to pay $100 for a great compiler but $400 for the /very same/ compiler with a code editor that's marginal at best. In the future I might release it as shareware - who knows. In the meantime, I'm just using this as an opportunity to expand my Windows development skills and have a little fun... My appeal to the group is: can you help me by letting me know the features/functionality a professional (or serious hobbyist) is looking for in a code editor/project manager for PIC programming specifically? What are the existing editors lacking that would make programming PICs easier and more productive? Please keep in mind that I'm writing a code editor - not a compiler or new programming language... To anyone who responds I'll commit to keeping you in the loop: I'll send you periodic updates of the editor forever and ever :-) ..Or you can just write and say I'm smoking crack... Thanks so much for your input! -matt redmond -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body