Hiya Tom, Thanks very much for posting those two web sites that sell LEDs and ship inexpensively. It just gave me an idea for a great stocking stuffer for Christmas for my nephews. I think it is time to get them introduced to electronics in some way and LEDs are fun for kids! I was even thinking of maybe introducing them to PICs and simple assembly language programs. Their ages are 6 and 9. It would be neat to see if it sets off a spark in them. Has anyone introduced kids around this age to PICs? Any comments, suggestions? Best regards, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.