Hello, 1) I'm looking for documentation about ISOBUS (ISO11783). This standard is inspired by SAE J 1939, based on CAN 2.0b. Go an have look on isobus.net Isobus is (or will be) use to interconnet tractor and other equipement in agricultural context. Isobus doc is available at beuth.de at the price of 550=88, so I = hesitate to buy it only to see if it is too complex for me or not. The better doc I found on Isobus is www. can-cia.de/j1939based/iso11783/isobus.pdf=20 Is anyone got more Info on this? 2) I have a good practice of PIC16C/16F, with CCS PIC C compiler. What is the better way for self improvement on CAN 2.0B? CCS sell a Can bus Dvp kit for 550$ (with the C compiler for 12, 16 and 18C/F devices). Is someone know this kit? (info on www. ccsinfo.com/canbusdvkt.shtml) Do you know another kit? What do you think of their ICD unit (I have worked with RF solution for 16C et ICD1 and ICD2 for 16F) Info: I am an Electronic Enginner (3 years of Exp. In a small company) and started my own business 2 month ago here in France. Got no C compiler until now. Wants to use Isobus for me, cause I suspect there is a market for me here. ____________________________________________ Samuel BOUQUET - NOVALIN novalin@free.fr -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.