> In the end I suspect some hobbyist will do the work to create > a ready to go > installation package for these tools and make it available for free > download. For me that is important, because it would increase my sales of the chips to hobbyists! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.