> I do think this makes sense. It means that the part can > always be erased > and programmed (PGC/PGD at fixed pins), but you have > flexibility in deciding > which other functions to give up if you want to build ICD2 > capability into > your circuit. That removes a (small) problem with ICSP support for these chips. Now I just have to wait for the programming specifications and an actual chip on my desk. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.