Hi. So far noone has mentioned Wouters (ICSP-only) Wisp628. It might no be appropriate here, since the O.P. would like to be able to program from within MPLAB... But, since I use Olins environment, and has integrated it all using UltraEdit (Olins processors, MPASM, MPLINK and XWisp) using buttons on the UE toolbar, I never have had any problem with that. I'm sure you already have, but I'd still like to suggest to stepp back and take a look at the environment as a whole. I did, and I found leaving MPLAB gave me a more productive environment as a whole. Just a thought... :-) Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads