> > I have been using my trusty old PICStart plus for quite some > time now, and am interested in starting to do ICSP instead, > so I can start using some surface mount parts. In the past, I've programmed surface mount PICs with the PICStart Plus by building a cable with a dip header on one end and a SIOC-Clip on the other. To use this method, I program the parts before I solder them on to the PCB. You can see an example of the cable at http://www.wizbangdesigns.com/temp1.html Tom Deutschman Wizbang Designs, Inc. 1629 W 8TH AVE Spokane, WA 99204 Phone: (509) 251-4814 www.wizbangdesigns.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads