On Friday, Dec 5, 2003, at 16:59 US/Pacific, Matt Pobursky wrote: > > I can't believe MS actually got a patent based on long file names. They > were implemented in *nix and Apple OS's long before MS ever implemented > them. > No, no. (at least, I don't think so.) Microsoft presumably has patents on ways that implement long file names in a manner that works with a filesystem datastructure that only does 8+3 character names. In a backward compatible manner so that systems that only support 8+3 can STILL access the files with long names. It's actually rather clever, and probably deserves a patent. But like I said, the patent should probably go to EUNICE, which did something VERY similar back prior to DOS v1. (Looks like FAT makes a special FIRST6~n.type with the long name stored away in some comment field of the directory entry, while EUNICE used a couple of files, one of which contained the long file names for everything that matched the 1st N characters.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.