On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, George Rosier wrote: > Thanks for all the information. To answer the question on what I ment by > 'cheap', I mean money wise. > > Geogrge > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. Yes, but what is "cheap" money wise for you? Free, $5, $20, $150? Also I'd like to second the earlier suggestions of using a bootloader. My favorite for 16F87x series was Romzap - but it doesn't appear to be around anymore - anyone know what happened to it? I use the bootloader at microchipc.com now for 18F2X2 work (they also have a 16F87x bootloader). -Matt -- There are 10 types of people in the world..those that understand binary and those that don't. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.