> In order of preference, just slide down until you hit your > desired cost. Nice list! At the bottom end, add the various circuits supported by ic-prog. At the top end, add professional varying-vcc programmers, and various ICE's. As alternative consider a bootloader as first step (especially, maybe only, when you are not yet sure whether you will ever use more than one PIC). I offer a complete board that makes an easy start http://www.voti.nl/dwarf/doc/DB016.pdf. There are numerous alternatives to this in the higher-prices category, including boards from Microchip that also contain various peripherals on-board. An maybe the piclist-starter-kit will be created any time soon? ;) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.