>I'm new to this PIC stuff. Welcome! >Needs to work on XP Professional or Linux (prefer XP Pro) >I would like it to program 16F and 18F if possible. >It needs to be cheap Further definition of "cheap" might be useful here, as well as some idea of what you're willing to put up with. My recommendations might run something like this: ICD2+MPLAB: Microchip supported all around, works as a programmer and an in-circuit debugger. Cost: $159 from Digikey. Warp13a+MPLAB+Engage: What I use now; plays very well with MPLab, and has generally been pretty user friendly and powerful. Also does ICSP, but no debug. Cost: ~$100 Wisp628+MPLAB+Wouter-ware: I've heard nothing but glowing reviews about this, and I've been thinking about making/buying one for a friend who's thinking about PICs as a hobby. I'm a little hesitant to dive into the Python scripting, but sooner or later I'm sure I'll have to. Cost: Less than $40 assembled from Wouter's webshop, or less, since he's been kind enough to post details for making your own on his webpage. In order of preference, just slide down until you hit your desired cost. Mike H. _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.