I started with Wisp 628, http://www.voti.nl/wisp628/index.html , which is created and sold in kit form by Wouter van Ooijen, from this list. It's a compact ICSP programmer, which is what you want. A separate "chip out" programmer is irritating for development work. The programming software is Xwisp, written by Wouter, and it's free, and works on more platforms than you'd care to shake a stick at (because it's python based). It certainly works on XP- that is what I use. All in all, I'm very happy with it, and its very cheap too. Many people on this list, particularly the hobbyist types, will strongly advocate this programmer. Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: George Rosier [mailto:tech_support.osie@MCHSI.COM] > Sent: 05 December 2003 14:11 > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [PIC:] Beginner Question > > > I'm new to this PIC stuff. I have programmed other chips, > like FPGA and HC611, but I was wondering what if i could get > a suggestion of a easy to build and use PIC Programming > solution (Software & Hardware). It would be very helpful. I > have listed the specs for the programmer > > > Needs to work on XP Professional or Linux (prefer XP Pro) > I would like it to program 16F and 18F if possible. > It needs to be cheap > > That is all I can think of for specs, but if there any other > questions just ask. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three > different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.