RESONATORS baby...make your life simple. They're rugged, simple, and small. Digikey part number: X909-ND ; 20mHz Ceramic with caps...$0.54 ea Ground the center pin and tie the outer two to the OSC pins....dead simple, only thing to remember is the MPLAB project doesn't default to HS, you'll have to set that yourself. DD -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads