Steve, I use Multiedit 9 pretty much daily. I started with ME 7 when I switched to Windows as my primary development platform, mostly because of the excellent Brief emulation (my long time DOS editor). I bought the ME 9 upgrade and got a manual with it. It's about 3/4" thick and ~250 pages. About the best you can expect these days, I think. I'm not sure if they sell any documentation beyond the User's Manual I got with my upgrade -- I don't remember paying extra for the manual. I just looked at the ME 7 manual and it's thicker, but also about 250 pages and appears to contain the same range of information. I got the same crappy little brochure with ME 8 that you did. FWIW, I also looked at Codewright about a year ago. I didn't like it so much, it seemed a little bloated and looked very "Visual Studio-ish" (which might appeal to some). It also was considerably more expensive than just upgrading Multiedit so I decided to stick with Multiedit. I do 90% of my work with maybe a dozen embedded controller families and Multiedit is simpler and cleaner for me. I didn't find much of anything I'd want to do that either editor couldn't do. All in all, very similar features. I've also hooked Multiedit into a couple different IDE's as well, most recently my Softools WinIDE Rabbit toolset. If you can get a cheap upgrade to Multiedit, that's what I'd do... Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:36:17 +1300, steve@TLA.CO.NZ wrote: > I've been using MultiEdit for many years but the last time I did any > semi- > serious programming for it was in the DOS version so it's back to > square one. I hate learning a new language without some form of > printed reference and when I upgraded to ME 8 "with printed manual", > all I got was a 90 page brochure. The DOS manuals were a couple of > inches thick. > > Does anyone have ME 9 and if so, is the printed documentation (that > they charge US$60 for) of any use ? > > The other option is to drop ME and learn Codewright. They used to > compete head-on. Is that still the case ? Could I reasonably expect to > do the same things in CW as I do in ME or has it been infected with > the > Visual anything bloat bug ? > Does CW have real manuals ? > > The reason for restricting my choices is that Codewright seems to be > the built in editor in a few IDEs that I use and can be integrated > into > others (as can ME). The same can't be said for vi. > > Thanks, > > Steve. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads