I've been using MultiEdit for many years but the last time I did any semi- serious programming for it was in the DOS version so it's back to square one. I hate learning a new language without some form of printed reference and when I upgraded to ME 8 "with printed manual", all I got was a 90 page brochure. The DOS manuals were a couple of inches thick. Does anyone have ME 9 and if so, is the printed documentation (that they charge US$60 for) of any use ? The other option is to drop ME and learn Codewright. They used to compete head-on. Is that still the case ? Could I reasonably expect to do the same things in CW as I do in ME or has it been infected with the Visual anything bloat bug ? Does CW have real manuals ? The reason for restricting my choices is that Codewright seems to be the built in editor in a few IDEs that I use and can be integrated into others (as can ME). The same can't be said for vi. Thanks, Steve. ========================================== Steve Baldwin Electronic Product Design TLA Microsystems Ltd Microcontroller Specialists PO Box 15-680, New Lynn http://www.tla.co.nz Auckland, New Zealand ph +64 9 820-2221 email: steve@tla.co.nz fax +64 9 820-1929 ========================================= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads