> Microchip sell a "Flash starter kit" which seems to use the 16C745 to hook > directly to the USB port, but it only supports 20pin devices, so the '877 > is out. There's also some linux software for it here: > Actually the Flash Starter Kit is for the 8 and 14 pin chips ('675 '630, etc) The 16c745 on board is part of the programmer. This kinda irritated me though, since they all use similar algorithms, seems to me that the Flash starter kit should be able to do ICSP of the rest of the flash pics with just a header board for the connections. -Denny -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.