> ..............What really gets my goat is other people making up arbitrary rules about what an ideal post looks like. > There was some merit in the original complaint - but it risks being dumbly arrogant to use the terms dumb & arrogant :-). More importantly, it almost ensures that the recipient will be so annoyed that the intended (quite valuable) message will be lost. Try & note the valulable points in the message while ignoring the abuse. What the complainant was intending to communicate was - if responses follow what is being responded to then most people find it easier to follow (and I agree in most cases) and - minimising information free content is liable to make the list a nicer place for all. I agree that consciously trimming out extraneous material is meritorious. I sometimes leave much of a prior post in place but if I do it is (almost always) because I think it adds to the overall information content. I note (not just on this list) that some people often make little or no effort to trim posts they are responding to. The comment on the multiple footers is worth noting. Unlike junk DNA (which they vaguely resemble) they really do seem to have no functionality and added, in this case, about 1 MB to the bandwidth of the net. If we could trim this much bandwidth from the average PIClist message we would deload the MITS server by about 50 gigabyte per year. The net has broad shoulders but if everyone treated it as a finite resource (little hope :-( ) it would work more nicely for all of us. There are in fact etiquette rules, some unspoken and some embalmed in the PICList faq, which suggest or demand the minimisation of bandwidth. Some poor souls (hopefully a diminishing percentage) have low bandwidth lines and/or dial up connections and such suffer disproportionately from largely regurgitated content. Such unfortunates may now curse me (gently please) for the low information content of this post. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.