> I'm sure it is and I'm not going to try to picture what I'm > not even sure you're getting at, but to what effect ? I was trying to ascertain whether it's possible use a triac on the opposite side of the half-cycle than is traditional. Take for example a light dimmer. The triac is turned on between some degree and the next z-c. If the point at which the triac turned on was fairly high on the curve, say 90 degrees, this could cause undue stress on the filament because of inrush current and maybe lead to premature failure. My question was whether it was possible to have the triac conducting between 0 and 90 (z-c to midpoint), rather than 90 and 180 (midpoint to z-c) as above. The question was a poorly phrased attempt to find out if a triac can be forced off when it's conducting Your FET artwork pretty much answers it, cheers -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics