Much to my annoyance, I've just had a warning email and my post to a forum concerning Renesas uP deleted. Apart from the fact I've been directed to forum rules, that I can't find anywhere on the website, It is apparently true that some Americans don't do irony or self deprecating humour. All I did was to post a problem I'd been having with their version of an ANSII C compiler as far as CISC uP's go and made a wry mention, that 'it is no wonder I like pics' - even more ridiculous this particular website/company produce and sell Pic accessories as well as a an attempt at a STAMP clone of basic. I'm seriously considering whether to return their free development board to them, the only thing preventing me at this moment being the cost of postage from Australia to America and the fact that Australia in its attempt to show everyone how they are playing their part in things requires me to provide ID to send a parcel OUT of the country - I hope that they actually check parcels coming into the country as well. Colin -- cdb, cdb@barnard.name on 31/03/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.