I have a Tek 465 that I got a few years back on Ebay (it is apparently a US Air Force surplus). It does the job for around $200 and still works mostly fine (probably needs some contact cleaner more than anything). On the other end, I used a couple of brand new top of the line (or close) Teks with a whole line of different current and differential voltage probes for a semester a couple of years ago at school working on a switching bass amp for senior design and you can consider me permanently spoiled. I don't think we'd have gotten it working with a 465. But then again I'd have to sell my car just to make a down payment on the thing. I gotta find a job with a company that's got the good stuff. As far as I got with my 465 getting the USART on a PIC talking to my PC was seeing if there was a signal present, min/max levels, etc. Certainly I couldn't have decoded the signal to ascii or anything (unless it was periodic, like sending "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa", then maybe). But ultimately it was good enough to get everything working using the PC terminal as a debugging tool. Bottom line: You'll probably get by for quite awhile with an analog but you'll probably also find yourself frequently wishing you had more. Guess that's life on a budget, eh? Nick -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics