> >In 15 years of Colorado driving I have never needed to put the chains > >on, but I have them in the Jeep at all times during the winter... > >they're a tool to get you to someplace warm and safe when you can't do > >it safely any other way, and should never be used to get you out INTO > >the elements... or at least that's what my grandfather taught me, and > >it's a good way to view them. Knowing the limitations of your vehicle > >and staying within them is the only way to go. > > > Exactly! My fire chief taught me this, in my intro to 4WD: > > Use 2WD till you get into trouble, and then use 4WD to get out of trouble. > If you get in trouble in 4WD, you're hosed. Hehe, reminds me of something a person on TV once said: Something to the effect of: If you have AWD make sure you have an extra long winch. Why? Because you'll end up farther in the ditch! His point? AWD/4WD, with most drivers, simply makes them too "confident", they think since they've got AWD/4WD they are invincible. Best part is when I pass one of those fancy, way overpriced SUVs, spinning their tires in a hope of accelerating, and I leave them in my dust (traveling a blazingly fast 20km/h vs. their 5km/h) with a lowly front wheel drive car. The difference? I have snow tires, they don't! :) TTYL ---------------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics