> >In 15 years of Colorado driving I have never needed to put the chains >on, but I have them in the Jeep at all times during the winter... >they're a tool to get you to someplace warm and safe when you can't do >it safely any other way, and should never be used to get you out INTO >the elements... or at least that's what my grandfather taught me, and >it's a good way to view them. Knowing the limitations of your vehicle >and staying within them is the only way to go. Exactly! My fire chief taught me this, in my intro to 4WD: Use 2WD till you get into trouble, and then use 4WD to get out of trouble. If you get in trouble in 4WD, you're hosed. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics