If the air if flowing from larger to smaller pipe, as you say, there shouldn't really be a whirlpool effect. If anything, there would be eddy currents along the sides of the pipe. Basically, the air backs up because it can't all go into the pipe at the same time and it curls back on itself. What happens in the reduction is that the air has to speed up to maintain a constant flowrate, I really don't think it would swirl like you are talking about. Is there anyway you can put something in the flow path and watch it to see what the air is doing? Hope this helps, Jim -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of John Pearson Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 09:34 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [OT:] Fluid dynamics question I have an air flow going from a 4" pipe into a 2" pipe. I am convinced, but not positive that the air is swirling, like a whirl-pool, inside the 4" pipe as it enters the 2" pipe. This is not desirable because it leads to false static pressure readings. I can imagine that it looks very much like water flowing out of a soda-pop bottle when turned upside down. I have greatly reduced this effect with baffles, but, I would rather not use baffles. Is there transition shapes that induce whirl-pool action. I currently have a trumpet like transition. Oh, and I know nothing about fluid dynamics. Thanks John -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body