Hi,Kelly Do your self a favor, and look here. www.dynaart.com I have the laminator it works great. you should be able to buy what ever you need here. I do also own pclogic, very easy to use. regards victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Miller" To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: [EE:] Recommendations on Home PCB Layout Software and Technique > I'm looking for some recommendations on creating PCB boards (for PIC and > related projects). > This is for "at home" personal projects to increase my knowlege and > capabilites. My requirements: > > 1. Should be in the $400-600 (USD) range . This includes a $200 HP > laser printer. This leave $200-400 for > software and first batch of supplies. > 2. Software runs on either Windows/XP or LINUX. > 3. Teaches me the basics of computer layout. Automated routing a big > plus. I need part libraries. > I'm a rookie with electonics but learning. Professional > SysAdmin/programmer by trade. > 4. Has simple and robust board construction techniques that are > repeatable and economical. I must > build the boards myself. Boards must be not be too hard to solder. > 5. Isn't overly dangerous or involves extraordinary care in handling > materials. > > One approach (possibly not a good one) I could imagine: > 1. Download "Eagle" software to start with. Find cheaper software when > need to upgrade. > 2. Buy HP Laser printer, hook to Wintel PC running XP. > 3. Create design on special paper product or foils. Print with laser > printer. > 4. Either "iron on" or use "UV" lights to create pattern on board. > 5. Remove pattern. Etch board with etchant. Careful with materials. > 6. Use "tinit" on board for appearance and oxidation. > 7. Drill board with Dremel hand tool mounted in Dremel drill press > attachment. > 8. Spray some soft of lacquer or paint all over board for professional > appearance. > 9. Populate board (I use "pin thru hole", NOT smt technology). Test and > evaluate design. > > Any recommedations are appreciated. And NO, I do not want to use a > commerical service. > > Thanks, Kelly > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.