I'm looking for some recommendations on creating PCB boards (for PIC and related projects). This is for "at home" personal projects to increase my knowlege and capabilites. My requirements: 1. Should be in the $400-600 (USD) range . This includes a $200 HP laser printer. This leave $200-400 for software and first batch of supplies. 2. Software runs on either Windows/XP or LINUX. 3. Teaches me the basics of computer layout. Automated routing a big plus. I need part libraries. I'm a rookie with electonics but learning. Professional SysAdmin/programmer by trade. 4. Has simple and robust board construction techniques that are repeatable and economical. I must build the boards myself. Boards must be not be too hard to solder. 5. Isn't overly dangerous or involves extraordinary care in handling materials. One approach (possibly not a good one) I could imagine: 1. Download "Eagle" software to start with. Find cheaper software when need to upgrade. 2. Buy HP Laser printer, hook to Wintel PC running XP. 3. Create design on special paper product or foils. Print with laser printer. 4. Either "iron on" or use "UV" lights to create pattern on board. 5. Remove pattern. Etch board with etchant. Careful with materials. 6. Use "tinit" on board for appearance and oxidation. 7. Drill board with Dremel hand tool mounted in Dremel drill press attachment. 8. Spray some soft of lacquer or paint all over board for professional appearance. 9. Populate board (I use "pin thru hole", NOT smt technology). Test and evaluate design. Any recommedations are appreciated. And NO, I do not want to use a commerical service. Thanks, Kelly -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.