Thanks Dal, Actually I have done what you have suggested. I came up with 35 years (with 2400 mAh x 0.70 (self discharge per year over 10 years)). So, since the battery will last for 10 years and considering the self discharge, the calculations shows that the unit will run for 10 years. But that's theoretical. I wanted to test it for real with a very small battery. But it seems that would not be possible. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Dal Wheeler Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 3:19 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [EE:] Testing prototype with a battery Sorry Vmer, I was joking a little bit there. Basically, how long do the batteries really have to last? I just saw the Tadiran website you listed in another email. These look like a different breed of battery from what I'm used to seeing. I'm not sure that increasing the load will give you much information as far as projecting what you can expect from a real installation over the full length of the real time discharge. Why not just take the curve from the battery datasheet for your current consumption and derate it a few percent for a safety factor. Real world longevity will vary a bit depending on where the device is installed anyway. I guess the only real way is to set up a bunch of these and see how long they actually last. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.