Added TAG: can I ask you, since english is not my native thongue: Are you really blind or is just a form of expresion. If you are, how do you manege to assembly circuit in the breadboard, protoboard or the way that you call it.? Best regards Oh, by the way. If I where you, I'll use the F84 since as you say you can then upgrade to the 628, and if you use the C64, you will be able to upgrade to the F877 with minor soft changes. Bye Mauricio Jancic Janso Desarrollos Microchip Consultant (54) - 11 - 4542 - 3519 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pic microcontroller discussion list >>[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin McCormick >>Sent: Lunes, 10 de Noviembre de 2003 11:45 >>To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >>Subject: My Time Capsule >> >> >> I have been on this list for 7 years and have almost >>gotten started programming PIC's a couple of times. As a >>computer user who happens to be blind, I started looking at >>PIC's just about the time all the development software went >>from DOS to Windows so I wasn't sure exactly what I was going >>to do to make it all work best. >> >> I use UNIX in my job and I got in to Linux at around >>that time. I had bought a couple of PIC programmers and some >>PIC's, but the development software, programmer drivers, and >>even some of the documentation presented one headache after >>another so I kept procrastinating which is something I plan >>to quit doing first thing tomorrow. >> >> Now, I have a Linux system that appears to support at >>least one of the programmers I have well enough to program >>most of the PIC's on hand so now, I am just writing a >>program, getting ready to burn it in to a 16F84, possibly a >>16f84A. I'll have to get out the box and find out what I >>bought, then. >> >> Now, for my PIC question. Are any of the following >>so obsolete that, if I built something with them, I couldn't >>replace it with what's current without a total re-write of >>the program? >> >>16C54 12c509JW 16F84 16C71JW 16c64jw 17C42 >> >>That is pretty much what I have on hand and I do have the UV >>eraser for the JW parts. If memory serves me, the 16c64JW is >>a 40-pin PIC that was a sample included in the early >>PICStartB or C series programmers around 1996. >> >> By the way, the Linux tools solve all the interface >>problems I had before and it looks like things are about to rock. >> >> I did read the web page >> >>http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/16F628.html >> >>so I know that the 16F84 is obsolete but it sounds like I can >>go ahead and use the few I have since their code will fit in >>to the 16F628. >> >> If things work out this time, I will get a PICStart >>Plus which is supported under Linux. >> >>Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK >>OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group >> >>-- >>http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three >>different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. >> >>-- >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 7.0.197 / Virus Database: 260.2.9 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 >> >> -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.197 / Virus Database: 260.2.9 - Release Date: 06/11/2003 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.